Legislature(2021 - 2022)GRUENBERG 120

04/16/2022 10:00 AM House STATE AFFAIRS

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10:06:30 AM Start
10:08:22 AM Confirmation Hearing(s):|| State Board of Parole|| Confirmation Hearing(s):
10:41:15 AM SB182
11:23:44 AM HB316
11:36:48 AM HB256
12:17:33 PM SB156
12:52:29 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
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+ Consideration of Governor’s Appointees: Richard TELECONFERENCED
"Ole" Larson, State Board of Parole
-- Public Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
+= SB 182 INTERFERENCE WITH EMERGENCY SERVICES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
+= HB 316 STANDARDIZED IMPROVEMENT TRACKING SYSTEM TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 256 LAW ENFORCEMENT: REGISTRY; USE OF FORCE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ SB 156 PROHIBIT COVID-19 VACCINE DISCRIMINATION TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
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         HB 256-LAW ENFORCEMENT: REGISTRY; USE OF FORCE                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:36:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  announced that  the next order  of business                                                               
would  be HOUSE  BILL NO.  256, "An  Act relating  to the  Alaska                                                               
Police  Standards  Council;  relating to  municipal  correctional                                                               
officers and  municipal correctional employees;  making municipal                                                               
police  officers  subject  to  police  standards;  requiring  the                                                               
Department  of  Public Safety  to  submit  a yearly  use-of-force                                                               
report to the legislature; requiring  a municipality that employs                                                               
a  person  as  a  municipal  police officer  or  in  a  municipal                                                               
correctional  facility, the  Department  of  Corrections, or  the                                                               
Department of  Public Safety to  report to the Federal  Bureau of                                                               
Investigation incidents  of use of  force by state  and municipal                                                               
police,   probation,  parole,   and  correctional   officers  and                                                               
municipal correctional  facility employees; and providing  for an                                                               
effective date."  [Before the committee was CSHB 256(CRA).]                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:37:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:38:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR, prime  sponsor,  introduced CSHB  256(CRA).                                                               
She paraphrased the sponsor statement  [included in the committee                                                               
packet], which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     House  Bill  256  establishes a  use-of-force  database                                                                    
     under  AS  44.41.055  that  will  be  overseen  by  the                                                                    
     Department of Public Safety  which will collect reports                                                                    
     of  use  of  force   by  a  municipal  police  officer,                                                                    
     municipal correctional  facility employee,  a probation                                                                    
     officer,  parole officer,  correctional officer,  state                                                                    
     trooper,  village public  safety  officer, or  regional                                                                    
     officer.  This   report  will   be  submitted   by  the                                                                    
     Department of Public Safety  under AS 44.41.020(h). The                                                                    
     Alaska  Police  Standards   Council  shall  maintain  a                                                                    
     central  registry  with  information that  the  Council                                                                    
     obtains  from  the  Department of  Public  Safety,  the                                                                    
     Department of Corrections, or a municipality.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     This  bill also  requires the  Alaska Police  Standards                                                                    
     Council  to adopt  regulations  that  require a  police                                                                    
     officer, probation  officer, parole  officer, municipal                                                                    
     officer,  or  correctional  officer   to  report  to  a                                                                    
     supervisor when  an incident of  force or  deadly force                                                                    
     occurred  or in  a situation  in which  an officer  was                                                                    
     prepared  to use  deadly force.  This report  will also                                                                    
     include  demographic  information  such as  the  person                                                                    
     whom  the force  was  used, age,  gender identity,  and                                                                    
     sexual orientation  if freely given by  the individual.                                                                    
     Additionally, the  officer who  used the force  and the                                                                    
     borough  or  census area  in  which  the use  of  force                                                                    
     occurred.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Currently, there  is no database that  tracks instances                                                                    
     of use-of-force within the State  of Alaska. While this                                                                    
     database will  not be  open to the  public, it  will be                                                                    
     shared for employment  purposes amongst departments and                                                                    
     agencies who  may be hiring  an officer or  employee as                                                                    
     well as  the Alaska State Legislature.  This will allow                                                                    
     for   transparency  among   agencies  and   will  close                                                                    
     loopholes  that  allow  officers  to  be  hired  on  to                                                                    
     another  agency  after  being  fired  for  use-of-force                                                                    
     incidents or certificate denial or revocation.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:47:55 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY  asked  what  kind  of  feedback  the  bill                                                               
sponsor had received from smaller law enforcement agencies.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR  said  much  of the  conversation  had  been                                                               
around  implementation and  what  information  would be  gathered                                                               
from each  incident of force  or deadly force.   She acknowledged                                                               
that  all of  the large  agencies  in Alaska    approximately  80                                                               
percent of  police officers -  were already participating  in the                                                               
use-of-force  database, and  that capturing  the last  20 percent                                                               
would come from the smaller agencies.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS  asked  Ms.  Howell  to  comment  from  the                                                               
perspective of the Department of Public Safety (DPS).                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:50:59 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
KELLY  HOWELL, Special  Assistant,  Office  of the  Commissioner,                                                               
DPS, stated that DPS already  collected data from law enforcement                                                               
agencies  and   reported  portions  to  the   Federal  Bureau  of                                                               
Investigation  (FBI),  such  as  uniform  crime  reporting  (UCR)                                                               
statistics,  which  was  similar  to  the  proposed  use-of-force                                                               
database.   She  explained that  DPS  staff was  reaching out  to                                                               
agencies  to encourage  participation  in information  submittal,                                                               
which  was  currently  voluntary.    She  noted  that  additional                                                               
federal grant funds  were being pursued to assist  in creating an                                                               
easier method for agencies to submit information to the FBI.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS sought to confirm  that 80 percent of public                                                               
safety officers were already reporting the data.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. HOWELL deferred to Ms. Purinton.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
LISA  PURINTON,   Chief,  Criminal  Records   and  Identification                                                               
Bureau,  Division of  Statewide Services,  DPS, reported  that 20                                                               
agencies were registered  to report, of which 5 had  less than 20                                                               
officers in the department.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:54:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN asked whether  the requirement in [Section                                                               
11] stating  that all municipal correction  officers or municipal                                                               
police officers  must complete the  requirements of  AS 18.65.240                                                               
was necessary given the recruiting and retention issues.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TARR clarified that the  officers would be given a                                                               
two-year  timeframe  to  complete   that  requirement,  per  CSHB
256(CRA).   She explained that  the two-year timeframe  was added                                                               
in  response to  the  concern voiced  by Representative  Eastman.                                                               
She  believed  that  the representative  had  referenced  an  old                                                               
version  of the  bill.    Additionally, she  noted  that a  "good                                                               
portion" of municipal correction  officers were already receiving                                                               
the training, which was being provided at no cost to the state.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS interjected to  share his understanding that                                                               
the committee was looking at Version A of the legislation.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR clarified  that a  committee substitute  was                                                               
adopted in  the Community &  Regional Affairs  Standing Committee                                                               
(CRA).                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
11:57:46 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 11:57 a.m. to 12:00 p.m.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
12:00:19 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS noted that the  current version of the bill,                                                               
CSHB 256(CRA), had  been distributed.  He requested  a summary of                                                               
changes in the current version of the bill.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TARR  provided a  brief summary of  changes, which                                                               
read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Following feedback from our  partners, we have included                                                                    
     several changes to HB 256:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     ? Section  7 in  Version 32-LS1341\A, referring  to DOC                                                                    
     reporting use of force  from probation officers, parole                                                                    
     officers,  or  correctional  officers to  the  FBI,  is                                                                    
     removed.  All  subsequent  sections are  renumbered  in                                                                    
     Version [I].                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     ?  Section  8*:  References to  village  public  safety                                                                    
     officers  and  regional   public  safety  officers  are                                                                    
     removed.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     ?  Section  9*:  A  reference   to  the  Department  of                                                                    
     Corrections is removed.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ?  Section  12*:   Increases  the  one-year  compliance                                                                    
     timeline  to  two years  in  order  to allow  for  more                                                                    
     training academy cycles.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     ?  Section   13*:  References  to  the   Department  of                                                                    
     Corrections and correctional facilities are removed.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
12:02:20 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN asked  whether  12 hours  of training  on                                                               
domestic  violence  or  sexual  assault could  be  covered  in  a                                                               
standalone program.  He shared  his understanding that currently,                                                               
it was included in the academy's curriculum.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR  said there  was  no  desire to  change  the                                                               
academy's current training.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   TARR,   in   response   to   a   question   from                                                               
Representative Eastman,  clarified that the  municipal correction                                                               
officers had their own academy.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN considered a  scenario in which an officer                                                               
attended an out-of-state  academy, came in as a  lateral hire, or                                                               
graduated  from the  academy years  ago.   He asked  whether they                                                               
would  be  required  to  undergo the  new  training  outlined  in                                                               
Section 11.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR clarified  that the  provisions in  the bill                                                               
would only apply to those hired after the effective date.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN expressed confusion.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS asked Ms. Goode to speak to the issue.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
12:07:11 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
KELLY GOODE, Deputy Commissioner, DOC,  conveyed that all but two                                                               
communities used  the DOC academy.   She explained that  the two-                                                               
year  requirement  would  allow  the  officers  to  complete  the                                                               
training on a more flexible timeline.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  maintained his concern that  the language                                                               
on page  4, lines 8-9,  suggested that all employees    including                                                               
those that  had already graduated  from the academy    would have                                                               
to meet  the training requirement  outlined in Section  11 within                                                               
two  years,  which  was  not  the  bill  sponsor's  intent.    He                                                               
suggested changing the language.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. GOODE agreed  that it would be  a policy call.   She said she                                                               
had understood  the language to  indicate that the  two remaining                                                               
communities - Bristol  Bay and Craig   would be  brought into the                                                               
DOC correctional officer academy,  suggesting that those officers                                                               
would  be required  to  attend the  academy  training within  two                                                               
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
12:09:41 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN opined  that the  language in  Section 1,                                                               
"an incident  in which an  officer used deadly force  or prepared                                                               
to use  deadly force against  a person"  was broad.   He inquired                                                               
about the meaning of that phrase.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR indicated  that the  federal definition  was                                                               
highlighted  in a  document [included  in the  committee packet],                                                               
titled "National  Use-of-Force Data  Collection Flyer,"  from the                                                               
U.S.  Department of  Justice.    She deferred  to  Ms. Howell  to                                                               
provide the statutory definition.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HOWELL, citing  DPS  policy, defined  "prepares  to use"  as                                                               
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     unholstering a  weapon with the intention  of preparing                                                                    
     to  use  it against  a  specific  individual or  group.                                                                    
     Unholstering  a  weapon  and  directing  it  towards  a                                                                    
     specific person  or group  even if  that person  is not                                                                    
     aware  this  action  requires  a  use-of-force  report;                                                                    
     however,  conducting  a   building  search  or  similar                                                                    
     operation with  an unholstered  weapon where  no person                                                                    
     or group  is encountered would  not be reportable.   It                                                                    
     is not the mere unholstering  of a weapon that triggers                                                                    
     the reporting  requirement, but  the directing  of that                                                                    
     weapon against a particular person or group.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN  asked  whether the  department's  policy                                                               
would be incorporated into statute.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. HOWELL could not speak to other agencies' policies.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  asked whether "use of  force" was defined                                                               
in  statute or  whether the  definition would  be drawn  from DPS                                                               
policy.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HOWELL stated  that  both "force"  and  "deadly force"  were                                                               
defined in statute under AS 11.81.900.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS  asked  whether  the agency  had  a  formal                                                               
position on the proposed legislation.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. HOWELL  read a prepared  statement, which suggested  that DPS                                                               
had  existing  measures  in  place for  reporting  use  of  force                                                               
incidents.  She opined that  the bill would reinforce current DPS                                                               
policies  and   practices.    She  stated   that  the  department                                                               
supported such  efforts to increase transparency  and build trust                                                               
with the public.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
12:16:56 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS announced that CSHB 256(CRA) was held over.                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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SB 156 Public Testimony Batch 1 from Sen Reinbold.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
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SB 156 Public Testimony Batch 3 from Sen Reinbold.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
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SB 156 Research - Healthcare.gov Title 21 Coverage for Pre- Existing Conditions 3.25.22.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
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SB 156 Research - Legal Opinion Informed Consent 4.5.21.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
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SB 156 Research - Legal Opinion Pre Superior Court Decision 4.5.21.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
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SB 156 Research - Letter from State Insurance Pre Existing Conditions 3.25.22.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
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SB 156 Research - NFIB Files Lawsuit Against OSHA Vax Mandate on Businesses Article 3.16.22.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
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SB 156 Research - Supreme Court Case Business OSHA (Stay) 1.13.22.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
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SB 156 Sectional Analysis 03.21.22 version G.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
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SB 156 Sponsor Statement 03.21.22 version G.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
SB 156
SB 156 Summary of Changes v I to G 4.14.22 (2).pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
SB 156
SB 156 Version G.PDF HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
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SB 156 Additional Info - HHS.gov- HIPAA Privacy Rule 3.25.22.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
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SB 156 Fiscal Note DOLWD-UI-04-08-22.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
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SB 156 Fiscal Note Executive Branch (OMB Comp Num 0).pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
SB 156
SB 156 Letter of Opposition - Alaska Chamber 04.13.22.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
SB 156
SB 156 Letters of Support as of 04.15.22 at 1pm from HSTA.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
SB 156
SB 156 Presentation 4.14.22 .pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
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SB 156 Research - Childrens Health Defense 4.15.22.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
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HB 316 Fiscal Note GOV-OMB-3-18-2022.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
HB 316
HB 316 Version B - 03.17.22.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
HB 316
HB 316 Explanation of Changes from Version A to Version B.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
HB 316
HB 256 Sponsor Statement.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
HB 256
HB 256 Sectional Analysis.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
HB 256
HB 256 Supporting Documents.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
HB 256
HB 256 Version A.PDF HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
HB 256
HB 256 Version B Summary of Changes 3.11.22.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
HB 256
CSHB 256 Version B 3.11.22.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
HB 256
HB 256 Fiscal Note 1 DPS.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
HB 256
HB 256 Fiscal Note 2 DPS.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
HB 256
HB 256 Hearing Request.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
HB 256
HB 256 Letters of Support.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
HB 256
SB 156 Emails of Support to Chair as of 04.15.22 at 1pm.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
SB 156
HB 256 Version I 03.18.22.PDF HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
HB 256
HB 256 Additional Info 04.18.22 - Participating Law Enforcement Agencies.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
HB 256
HB 256 Additional Info 04.18.22 - LEOKA.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
HB 256
HB 256 Additional Info 04.18.22 - National Use-of-Force Data Collection Flyer.pdf HSTA 4/16/2022 10:00:00 AM
HB 256